Dionysus

http://paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/no_3_dionysis.htm

Dionysus is identified with many other savior-gods. Dionysus was also called Bacchus, Zagreus, Sabazius, Adonis, Antheus, Zalmoxis, Pentheus, Pan, Liber Pater, or "the Liberator." His emblem was the thyrsus, a phallic scepter tipped with a (1.)pine cone. His priestesses were the Maenads, or Baccharites, who celebrated his orgies with drunkenness, nakednesss, and sacramental feasting. The maenads, or bacchantes, were a group of female devotees who left their homes to roam the wilderness in ecstatic devotion to Dionysus. They wore fawn skins and were believed to possess occult powers.

Dionysus (2.)died each winter and was reborn in the spring.

Dionysus later hero-incarnation Orpheus, star of the popular Orphic Mysteries, was the same sacrificial god, torn to pieces by the Maenads. Proclus said, "Orpheus, because he was the principal in the Dionysian rites, is said to have suffered the same fate as the god" (Walker, The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, p. 237). Dionysus was hailed as "King of Kings and God of Gods." He was also the god-begotten, virgin-born Anointed One (Christos) whose mother seems to have been all three forms of the Triple Goddesss in his sacrificial Dendrites, "Young Man of the Tree." He was also a Horned God, with such forms as bull, goat, stag 

Dionysus is often presented as a wine-god.

First and most primitive, a king is killed and torn to pieces by the Maenads (priestesses) and cannibalized to provide both the earth and women's wombs with fructifying blood...his blood making a sin offering of the "wine" of his blood

A King surrogate in the form of a condemned criminal or a young man chosen by lot

Next an animal substitute for the man

Finally "flesh" and "blood" devoured in the form of bread and wine, the classical Dionysian sacrament at Eleusis

In the form of a golden shower (sun-worship) Zeus seduced Danae, who bore Perseus; in the form of a bull, he abducted Europa, who bore Minos, Rhadamanthys, and Sarpedon. By various amours and marriages, Zeus became the literal father of the Greek pantheon. And, last of all, Semele, daughter of Cadmus in Thebes, bore him Dionysus, the only child of a mortal ever to be recognized as an immortal god in the Greek pantheon (a godman).

(note- Danae is great grandmother of Dionysis, and is the only link to his being half god)

Pythagoras Wiki - Pythagoras's revelation by a Lake

From Wikipedia:

Pythagoras of Samos --born between 580 and 572 BC, died between 500 and 490 BC) was an Ionian Greek mathematician and founder of the religious movement called Pythagoreanism. He is often revered as a great mathematician, mystic and scientist

According to Iamblichus, the Pythagoreans followed a structured life of religious teaching, common meals, exercise, reading and philosophical study. Music featured as an essential organizing factor of this life: the disciples would sing hymns to Apollo together regularly; they used the lyre to cure illness of the soul or body; poetry recitations occurred before and after sleep to aid the memory.

Pythagoras established a secret religious society very similar to (and possibly influenced by) the earlier Orphic cult.

According to Iamblichus, the Pythagoreans followed a structured life of religious teaching, common meals, exercise, reading and philosophical study. Music featured as an essential organizing factor of this life: the disciples would sing hymns to Apollo together regularly; they used the lyre to cure illness of the soul or body; poetry recitations occurred before and after sleep to aid the memory.

Pythagoras was very interested in music, and so were his followers. The Pythagoreans were musicians as well as mathematicians. Pythagoras wanted to improve the music of his day, which he believed was not harmonious enough and was too hectic.

And a very interesting synchronicity

From::  http://www.expansivepoetryonline.com/journal/rev042007.html

Lee Slonimsky's Pythagoras In Love

My observations of the following text:

Pythagoras sees hawks circling above him as he has a revelation at a lake before being taken in his etheric form to a star.  The hawks are hunting a snake, and Pyth. warns the snake.

Hawks also resonate with eagles.  The use of the Eagle in modern western government is predominant over any other animal used for symbology.  The Eagle and Hawk also resonate with the Pheonix of Ancient Egypt and Babylon.  Collectivley, we can assume the identity between the Hawk and Western Governments are relevant.  

Snakes are used often in Eastern theology, and have been worshipped through the ages.  Snakes also pop up in the iconic symbolgies of used in ancient Latin America - The Mayans and Peruvians are Antedelluvian surviving cultures who would use worship of the snake could have been carried over from the same sorces as those eastern religoions thousands of years ago.  

Additionally, the text reads, "He warns the hunted snake and off she goes", implying the snake is female.

So, I would say that the snake could represent Eastern Government and theocracy.

The west has always seeked to stamp out those ancient snake cultures and their pagan-esque teachings.

In both stories of St. Blaise, and Orpheus; the government in which they belonged to turned against them because of ideologies that leaned towards eastern philosophy as opposed to western.  For this, they had their heads cut.  

Orpheus was killed because he stuck up for women, and Pythargous's snake is female.

The story of St Blaise says nothing about any "female" or "females" which would be predictable coming from a catholic story, although they did in the story mention that St. Blaise was mistaken for Orpheus.

Pythagorus being a resonator of both St. Blaise and Orpheus, had a revelation one morning while observing light reflecting from a lake.  He saw a snake (which represents the knowledge or awareness of the east) and the circling hawks above, (west) and warned the snake.  Pythagorus did not have his head cut, or anything bad happen to him, because in this life time, I believe he may have learned his lesson when the event reoccurred.

Pythagoras is thought to have derived some of his mathematical insights from the observation of birds in flight, and avian imagery abounds in this little book. Geese, gulls, crows, swans, swallows, larks, thrushes, nightingales, mockingbirds, and above all hawks flit through the text as if it were a bird sanctuary. Hawks were especially important to Pythagoras, as their elliptical swoops may have suggested numerical patterns to him, and of course there is the probably apocryphal story (it is mentioned in both Plutarch and Porphyry) that the philosopher was friendly with an eagle. After a while this bird-business gets tedious, but Slonimsky manages to keep the reader's interest through the sheer force of sophisticated language.An example of Slonimsky at his very best is the sonnet "Warning," wherein Pythagoras is found in a forest, observing a snake and two hawks. I give it in full:The supple gleaming presence of this snake, 
her midnight-colored, glistening thin coil, 
observed this morning near the sun glazed lake, 
unnerves Pythagoras; his daily toil 
of studying birds, winged geometries, 
the way they intersect with wind and light, 
originating angles with the trees, 
is halted by this primitive black sight. 
But intellect soon subjugates his fear; 
he pauses, patient, hoping for a move 
expressing undulation. Now a pair 
of hungry hawks is circling right above; 
he warns the hunted snake, and off she goes; 
good use for language learned from cawing crows.Mortality's gray scythe will never wait 
for him to learn how shape and song are rules 
of atoms humming now in a faint breeze. The way late sunshine glances off these stones, 
caressing granite with its western light, 
and whispering affection to earth's bones 
with radiant bronze lust that would invite 
hot rapture in the living, soothes him now, 
as if he'll be beloved even when 
his flesh declines to dust, as if somehow 
the sun can feel a passion for old men 
through all the darkness of eternity. 
OrphismNote:  In the quoted tablet, there is a reference of being "a son of the earth and starry heaven"This is something the newly dead soul must to repeat to the guards of the underworld, in order to achieve salvation.(the earth=human  --  the starry heaven (heaven=star)= non human?   Does this mean a declaration of hybrid ancestry? 
FROM:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphism_(religion)
Surviving written fragments show a number of beliefs about the after life similar to those in the "Orphic" mythology about Dionysus' death and resurrection. Bone tablets found in Olbia (5th cent. BC) carry short and enigmatic inscriptions like: "Life. Death. Life. Truth. Dio(nysus). Orphics." The function of these bone tablets is unknown.
Gold leaves found in graves from Thurii, Hipponium, Thessaly and Crete (4th cent. BC) give instructions to the dead. When he comes to Hades, he must take care not to drink of Lethe ("Forgetfulness"), but of the pool of Mnemosyne ("Memory"), and he must say to the guards:

"I am the son of Earth and Starry Heaven. I am thirsty, please give me something to drink from the fountain of Mnemosyne."

story of orpheus

Orpheus was from Thrace (northeastern Greece), and famous as the most skilled musician of all time, but the primary story involving him is a tragic one, concerning his trip the Underworld. 

On the very day of his wedding to his beloved Eurydice, she was accosted by one of the guests, and while fleeing, she was bitten by a poisonous snake, the scene of the first image here, by Renaissance artist Jacopo dell Sellaio. Orpheus was determined to bring his wife back, and embarked on a journey to the Underworld to make his appeal to Hades. This is seen here by three different artists: first by Jan Bruegel (the younger, the same artist who did the Aeneas in the Underworld above), then a Baroque version by Francois Perrier, with Orpheus' instrument looking like a modern violin, rather than his traditional lyre, and the third by Jules Machard from 1865

The next two paintings show Orpheus, now having to live with his failure, having removed himself to the forests of his homeland Thrace, to play his music for the animals. The first version is from the Baroque period by Roelandt Savery; the other, by Briton Riviere from 1874, has been called 'Apollo playing the lute', but it most closely corresponds to the theme of Orpheus entertaining the beasts; it is unclear whether the title was given to it by the artist himself or someone else who made the assumption.

(ME:  I'M STUCK IN UNDERLINE FONT!

Anyway....  This next part here directly resonates with the story of the death of St Blaise.  Both were betrayed by his own government, (although here these people are followers of Dionysus), both decapitated.

The final chapter of the story of Orpheus is also tragic; after losing Eurydice (twice), Orpheus vowed he would never have anything to do with women again (some said he became the first homosexual). But this vow against women offended the Maenads, the followers of Dionysus, who went into a frenzy and attacked Orpheus. After he was killed, they shredded his body to bits and cast them into the sea, but his head floated to an island where it was found still able to speak and sing; it was set up in a shrine where it continued to function as an oracle, until the day Apollo arrived and commanded it to be silent.

Tablet of the Orphics - St. Blaise and Orpheus Part 1

From page 28 of "History of Western Philosophy"

link:  

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ey94E3sOMA0C&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Pythagorean+cult+dionysus&source=web&ots=Eh4dyA1eJN&sig=S-C_GlSRZx9RWDk2Gcqe4udD0K0&hl=en&ei=SameSb7lMJmktQPb7aDDCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA30,M1

Orphic tablets found in tombs as instructions to the sould of the dead person as to how to find his way in the next world and what to say in order to prove himself worth of salvation

the Petelia Tablet:

Thou shalf find on the left of the House of Hades a Well-spring

and by the side therof standing a white cypress

to this well-spring approach not near

but thou shalt find another by the Lake of Memory

Cold water flowing forth and there are Gaurdians before it

Say, "I am a child of Earth and of Starry Heaven;

But my race is of heaven (alone) This ye know yourselves

And Io, I am parched with thirst and I perish Give me quickly

The cold water flowing forth from the Lake of Memory"

And of themselves they will give thee to drink from the holy well-spring

And thereafter among the other heros thou shalt have lordship...

Another tablet says, "happy and blessed one, thou shalt be God instead of mortal"

The well spring of which the soul is not to drink is Lethe, which brings forgetfulness; the other well spring is Mnemosyne, rememberance.  The soul in the next world if it is to achieve salvation is not to forget but on the contrary to acquire a memory surpassing what is natural.

The Orphics were a ascetic sect; wine to them was a sacrament.  The intoxication was a union with the god.  They believed themsleves, in this way to acquire mystic knowledge not obtainable by ordinary means.  This mystical element entered into Greek philosophy with Pythagoras, who was a reformer of Orpism as Orpheus was a reformer of the religion of Dionysus.  

Saint Blaise was the son of wealthy people in Sebaste, a town of Armenia near Turkey, in the days when it was fashionable to be a heathen. He was not like the other boys, his playmates, for he was a Christian, full of sympathy for everything that lived. More than all things he longed to learn how to help the creatures that he loved,—men and women, the children, the dumb beasts, and everything that suffered and was sick.

The timid creatures were brave in his presence, and the fierce ones grew tame and gentle at the sound of his voice. The little birds brought him food, and the four-footed beasts ran errands and were his messengers.

(Christians were being prosecuted and men were sent out, and found St. Blaise.:::)

The men were so astonished at the sight that they stole away without capturing an animal or saying a word to Saint Blaise, for they thought he must be Orpheus or some heathen god who charmed wild beasts

The legends say that they used to visit him in his forest home, which was a cave on Mount Argus near the city of Sebaste.The good Bishop was put in prison. And after that they tortured him, trying to make him promise not to be a Christian any longer. But Saint Blaise refused to become a heathen and to sacrifice to the gods. And so they determined that he must die. They would have put him in the arena with the wild beasts, but they knew that these faithful creatures would not harm their friend. The beasts could not save him from the cruel men, but at least they would not do anything to hurt him. Those which were still left in the forest howled and moaned about his deserted cave, and went sniffing and searching for him everywhere, like stray dogs who have lost their master. It was a sad day for the wood-creatures when Saint Blaise was taken from them forever.

The soldiers were told to drown Saint Blaise in the neighboring lake. But he made the sign of the Cross as they cast him from [94] the boat, and the water bore him up, so that he walked upon it as if it were a floor, just as Christ did once upon the sea of Galilee. When the soldiers tried to do the same, however, thinking to follow and recapture him, they sank and were drowned. At last of his own free will Saint Blaise walked back to the shore, clothed in light and very beautiful to look upon; for he was ready and eager to die. He let the heathen seize him, and soon after this was beheaded.

more useless theoritcal vomit

I'm watching the news right now.

This is something I just thought of....

Are we headed for a major power outage within the next year?

I just saw something on the news about fluorescent lights and that other lights might not be available after 2012. Then about 3 minutes later there was a story which had the headline, "outrage over shooting", but at first glance I saw "outage over shooting" which could also just be read simply, "outage shooting".

The reason I bring this up is that earlier I was sitting in the living room with Edward and he was showing me youtube videos, with this NLP whiz named Darin Something-rather (I'm sure the last name is in my history somewhere but I'm lazy right now) and I'd heard of NLP before but never fully understood what it meant or was all about. As soon as I started watching the videos though, it was like realizing something I've always understood about language and was always something that I was naturally aware of. When I'd hear people say things in conversations, I'd always hear some underlying conversation going on, weather it was on a personal level with a good friend, or some stranger on tv. I can't help it, I'm constantly aware of all of multiple levels of communication and translation existing on a single plane. Sometimes it even freaks me out a bit, and I'm sure it's part of the reason I don't trust TV.

The videos, sort of tuned me into this realm of thought. I became extremely aware of the influence of body language and the general waves of progression that arose within word usage in conversations, and it's intertwining with everything that followed. Now, this is something I've always been aware of, but always believed it was something only I was tapped into. I'd never seen it in action as it was in these videos. He used influential imagery with his subjects which created in them desires for things they didn't previously have interest in. For example this man who believed he wanted a bmx bike as a present, but was influenced by images around him and the words the nlp magician (for lack of a better term) used. I started to think again about television and about the way this most definitely must be used on us on a daily basis, otherwise, why would it even be a study at all?

So I was just watching the news and I some of those things, like the lightbulb story and then the repeated nonsensical story about "outrage over shooting". So I gathered that we are perhaps headed for some kind of riot, whereas our lights are shut off in the process making things even worse? Weather or not this is a true prediction, that may or may not have been deliberatley suggested, perhaps it was just out there in the radio waves like the bible code is and has been, and I simply saw it for a second, OR, maybe it means nothing, and I'm just loony tunes. ha.

It's blatantly obvious that there have been many stories following the 20th which have been quite finger-pointing in regards to race and crime, and it's just ugly. I mean, come on - do they really think we're that dumb? Am I the only one who's noticed how news has so dramatically changed at such a fast pace?

Suddenly, there are stories with language like, "Palestinians are pleading with Obama to stop the bombing." And I'm sitting here thinking... okay so we're bombing Palestine now? And how long has this gone on? All of a sudden it's Obama who's bombing? When bush was in office we never directly said, "Bush wont stop bombing", we'd say, "The US is still bombing, etc." But never his actual name. This seems like a way to persuade people into disliking Obama. OR... it's a social test. Maybe they want to see what they can get away with in the Media by saying things more outright, and being more upfront about what's going on overseas, and experimenting with our feelings towards war, should we happen to like our president. Would we be okay with it then? Or does popular opinion really control us?

And now I've got Fox News on mute right now, but this is what I see. A man and woman sitting on a nice homely couch. It's a mod style couch like one straight out of the early 60's. This implies a home-like atmosphere, and not just any home, it's a home like the one you grew up in, during the 60's. The woman is wearing a slightly form fitting sweater, light pink or maybe beige, and she has shoulder length hair which is slightly blondish. Her tone is that of a concerned mother. It's also one of warning with tinges of neighborhood gossip as if to say, "Do you know what so and so is doing next door? It's just not right." And the man on her left is wearing similar colors, slightly pink, with a red polka dotted tie. He's mostly nodding in approval. For the woman to take such a bold stance would be outlandish in politics, but not so in the comfort of the family home. At home our mothers are nagging and overbearing while the father sits by and says, "Yes it's true."

It got annoying though, and that's why it's on mute, I'm about to find a nature program in a bit here, if they are any on at all...

magic squares, hypercubes, and other such confusing things

It's interesting, this new fascination I have with the cube, and geometry, and math which I normally despise.

My first encounter with the little wave of synchronicity surrounding this subject was seen in the Wikipedia for the Sagrada Familia, which is Gaudi's church in Spain that I was looking at because it reminded me of the inside of a whale, and was yet another bone church...

I was reading about some of the architectural features of the church, and there was also something which detailed "The Magic Square of Sagrada Familia".  I thought it interesting so bookmarked it to look at later.

I never really did look at it, and still haven't actually read it, except that it is a magic square that is of order of 33.  I already know that 33 is a sacred number, especially to the people at the top of our societal pyramid.  I don't yet know why exactly that is, because I'm not a math whiz. I know that 33.3 is a perfect third, and a third probably has significance unlike any other sum in geometry, but have yet to know the extent of it.  Still, I could be off completely.  

Anyway, I linked "The Magic Square" wikipedia to my blogger for later viewing because I knew that Id go back to it if it were there.  

As a completely separate case, last week I sat on the bed with a pad and paper watching tv with half attention, while sketching a series of cubes.  I found their centers the way I'd been taught in art school, and made perfect floating shapes within the cubes, as well as played with the possibilities of the cube as well as 2d square.  Why?..... for the hell of it I guess.  I saw a ruler laying near me and picked it up for old times sake.  I used to live with rulers as extensions of my fingertips and it's been a few years since then, so I thought I'd play around.  Originally, I was going to draw a Mandala, but I got stuck on the cubes...

I saw there for a brief moment a complicated possibility in the cube form while drawing it, but didn't have the patience to figure out.  Basically it was a snowflake looking hypercube, and it sort of popped out at me the way 3d photos do as your mind switches from right to left brain, or the other way around.  Anyway, within those few minutes, I also thought about the Egyptian obelisk, and thought it could be a tool to use to build a great pyramid... I wrote that all out in my public blog...

Just now, I looked back into the Magic Square, on wiki, and I learned a little more about it.  I also saw it has something to do with the hypercube.   The synchronicity is that I became interested in the hypercube while drawing (or learned what it was at least after seeing it in the cube sketches)  and then it came up in some reading about the magic square.  I thought to myself, "there's that hypercube again".

Then in a discussion board I skimmed over, someone was speaking about magic squares, and said something about the geometric expression for the magic square 15 describes the seal of Saturn, and next to it was a little picture.  The picture looked like... well it looked like alot of things.  Most importantly, it looked like the center of a complex hypercube.  it also looked like the a pentagon, if the outer perimeters weren't connected.  It also looked like a masonic symbol.

the link is here for future reference

http://wyldwytch.com/weavings/forums/index.php?showtopic=7141

Too bad such interesting thing have to be on wacky pages such as this one above.  it was called, "pagan witch" or something to that effect. 

I haven't read the whole thing yet.  Actually I've hardly read any of this stuff yet but I just wanted to add into my private blog these interesting little findings.  They have nothing to do with my dream search, if I can call it that anymore....  but it's just interesting, and this has become more a place for interesting things that I'm too embarrassed to post publicly.  

So...note to self...... keep learning about this stuff, it's really interesting!!!!

goodnight computer.

ps.  I think the reason why I first looked at the magic square and then had the inclination to sketch cubes, squares and spheres is that once you have a base formula in your head, your subconscious quietly begins to work on the problem without it being something that is at the forefront of your mind.  I think that's what set the synchronicity into motion, and while it was interesting that the hypercube made a seemingly disconnected reappearance, it was probably in fact the magic square working it's self into different forms and causing me to seek it out in other expressions, and then seeing these things again in what I'd think are unrelated searches, are actually the answers answering themselves later on.   If that makes any sense.   Sort of the way I stared into the hypercube after googling it, and after seeing it pop out of the cube... and then about 10 minutes later this whole thing about the obelisk and pyramid sort of just popped into my mind out of no where.  It's like the shapes were still there in my subconscious, moving themselves around and fitting themselves into different jigsaw possibilities without my consciously realizing it.  Then when a fit is matched, it pops into my mainframe thought process as a newly realized thought.

Some Side-History:: People of the Flood, and Whale Cult Cultures

The Great Deluge Myths

The cultures who posses a historical account of the Great Flood, all have striking similarities in language, religious background (waaaay pre-christian), genetics, and historical myths.  First, let me say that myths are verbally passed history.  During the time of a catastrophe proportional to that of the Great Flood, there wouldn't have been time to gather written histories to take on an "Arc", or other vehicle of survival; they would have had to pass the tales verbally to the new generations.

The similar elements within The Deluge Myths:

In most of the accounts, The God figure, warns the Noah Figure, and he builds a boat. In the Scandinavian tale the "Noah figure" was told to build a "var", which is a subterranean structure. In the Peruvian account, a simple Indian man was told by his llama to go to the highest mountain, and when they got to the top of the mountain, he saw that there were many other animals there, awaiting the disaster. The larger more prominent, Mayan culture were warned by God, and their "Noah" were a man and wife who were told to build a box.

Some culture's accounts have a Noah figure who warned by God, and others, don't. (Like the Peruvian Indian and Llama)  Now, in the Mayan culture their God, the Quetzalcoatl was said to be an actual man, who traveled with two other men.  They claimed to have actual contact from day to day with their God.  If this were the case then the warning would have come from some kind of Government Official.

If this could example could be applied to other cultures who received a warning, it could be said that it may have come from some elite official, who knew of the coming disaster and told the people to build some kind of vehicle in order to survive. Again, there are others who may have survived by some seemingly psychic insight. (Like the Peru man and Llama)

I read last night that there are 500+ flood accounts, from all over the world. 

(1) In a survey of 86% of these accounts (The largest percentage belonging to Americans at 46% and second largest being Asiatic 20%,  Australian and Pacific are 10%, Africa is 3%, and Europe is 3%)   Andree concluded that 62% of these accounts were entirely independent of the Mesopotamian and Hebrew accounts.

Are Flood Survivors... Post-Atlantean Cultures?

The Germans, 1930's and 40's-

It's come up in many texts (articles, and a documentary I saw recently) that the Germans during the time of WWII, were searching the world for any evidences of Atlantean Ancestry, with the understanding that ancient Germanic Tribes, and the Viking Norse, were part of an ancient civilization which they called Hyperborea. 

They were very interested in the Tibetans, (Who because of the elevation of the Himalayan Mountains would have been the only visible land to a people lost at sea during the ancient flood.  The same can be said about the Inca settling in the Andes.)  They sent anthropologists to Tibet to survey the people there, looking for traces of like-heritage.

The Spanish-Basque Conquest, 15 ct.- 16ct

I was wondering about the Spanish Conquests during the time of Ignatius Loyola (Who I think may have had Atlantean Ancestry, and I've read that Ignatius wrote his "Spiritual Exercises" to mirror the likeness of ancient texts, which were possibly from the time of Atlantis.) 

I wondered if the Spanish/Basques (The Jesuits were Basque) were driven by the same motivation the Germans were, as far searching for Atlantean ancestry.  I think they must have had some conviction as to linkage with Atlantis, being that the Ignatius supposedly took his writings from theorized Atlanean texts, have the highest percentage of Rh Negative blood (thought to have some interesting theories behind it) in the world, and also have linkage to "Hyperborea" because of their Celtic origin.  (They actually have alot in common with the Norse people)

The Inca have long been hypothesized to be of Atlantean ancestry.  They are a culture who have Deluge Myths, as well as one who shares language similarities with other cultures who are also thought to be flood survivors.  (Hopi Indians, Basques, and others)

The Spanish were very focused on The Americas, during the time time of conquest. The de Loyolas, and De La Vegas married Inca Royalty, and later (after Pizarro) the Spanish proceeded wipe out any traces of ancient knowledge there, and replace it with Christianity. 

Why The Philippines?

The interesting thing about the marriages is, the Basques in South America married Inca Royalty. I thought about the importance of a royal marriage to the Basque families with Inca royals, and what their true motive may have been.  If the conquest was similar in any way to the Germans quest to find people with like-heritage, what could the Basque-Inca marriages have been motivated by?  Did they marry to preserve blood?  A blood relation which was long lost and now found?  

That brought me to thinking about my family, and relation to Ignatius de Loyola and Garcilosa de la Vega, (who is buried at the postulated Stargate, Temple of the Sun in Cusco)  Expanding on this, I wondered if there were ancient Filipino Deluge myths, and if this is the reason that both the Loyolas and the de la Vega's married there as well.  And, if they married royalty in Peru, wouldn't they have married royalty in the Philippines?  

I think it should be considered that the Inca Royalty, are royalty for a reason.   Royalty is usually passed down from an important, matriarchal family, or person, or group of people.  Could these be the "Noah" figures of Peru, and the Philippines who were being married by the Basques?  (By Noah figures, I mean the original survivors who were the first generation to pass the Deluge Myth down)

I wrote down earlier that in my next research binge, I must try to find out what it was that Jesuits found so important in the Philippines.  And who are my forefathers who these Jesuits married? (or I should say foremothers)   Is there some untapped phenomena in/about the Philippines that points to Atlantean Ancestry?   As I've found today, the answer may be yes.  

Ancient Filipino Mythology does in fact have Deluge tales, as well as Whale Cults, which I'll get to in a second. Obviously, information which pertains to whales is going to be of interest to me, because the whole reason for launching all of this research is supposed to be related to my dream.  Now, I have reached quite far out into many directions, but I shouldn't count any of it out, because history is important, period.  Regardless of weather it is relevant to my dream, I think that the more history one knows, the easier it is to understand the way things panned out in any respective period of time.

The Whale Cults

I believe that finally after trying to understand the meaning of the murder of the whale in my dream and being made to stand inside the dying whale... and then the  "Whale's Emotions" (a sack of blubber handed to me) and other elements regarding the whale, that there may actually be relevance in the histories of ancient cultures and their affinity with whales, and in particular the cultures which I am genetically linked to.  I've found that both the ancient people of the Pacific Islands, as well as the ancient Norse people of Sweden (and the surrounding region there) have Whale Cults in their history.

The Whale Cults of the South Pacific

I'm not sure about how I found the Whale Cults, it was just there in front of me.  Being a spiritual person who holds synchronicity to be as valuable as scientific data, and so I followed it.  

The Whale Cults, which in one article talked about the Vietnamese Cham Cult have the deepest influence throughout South Pacific, and predates all other religion in the region of the Pacific.  I'll touch on it a bit here, but its so fresh that I can't conclude anything, really.  The most interesting thing though is that almost all of the countries who worship the Whale, also honor it's death.   

In my dream, the whale was killed, and then I was made to be inside the dying whale.  This will be more panned out once it's clear in my mind and I've read more about it.  For now I'll say that the significance of the death of the whale, and it's being as a celebrated happening, tells me that there must be some kind of ascension process (the soul of the whale) behind it, or behind it's sacrifice.

The Basques and the Whales 

There is something there, and I haven't begun to look. (I put one link on this page so I can quick reference, and I'll probably add a couple others)  My Mom was online, and we were talking about it, so she googled something regarding the Basques and Whales, and then found some articles about Basques and Whales.  Then, she pointed to the screen from across the room and said "Look they use the bones for a temple!"

I realized then, that the Vietnamese do the same; their Cham cult uses whale bones for temples.  Then I thought... wait a second, I visited a Cathedral in Barcelona, Sagrada Familia which was built by famous architect Antonio Gaudi.  I remembered being inside of the place, and looking up and thinking..... these are bones... we're inside of a whale, aren't we?  I remember saying it out loud.

So, to sum things up... I'm speculating to have found something that may be relevant to my research;  linkage between Atlantean survivors, ancient Whale Cults belonging to the Norse, The Basques, and people of the South Pacific, and a possible reason the Jesuits married Filipinos and gave them (us) their name.

(1.) Fingerprints of The Gods, Graham Hancock (Quoting Author Dr. Richard Andree)